Episode Description

Industrial facilities depend heavily on natural gas for steam production; in California, food processing, which is one of the largest users of steam, consumes an incredible amount of energy as a result. Because the price of steam is directly tied to the price of natural gas, industries face volatile costs that can directly impact competitiveness. And there are precious few alternatives for producing the volume of steam required to keep our food industry productive.  Yet, by producing hydrogen on-site via solar power, along with high-efficiency hydrogen boilers, that paradigm can shift significantly.  As a result, companies can stabilize costs and rethink how industrial steam is supplied and used.

Jim Tyler, CEO of Erthos, explains why industrial steam is the key to making hydrogen cost-competitive, how compressed gas storage compares to batteries, and how a closed-loop system can improve efficiency.  Erthos has developed a hydrogen boiler that operates at 98% efficiency, outperforming traditional natural gas systems. He also shares why selling steam, rather than hydrogen itself, is the smartest business model for scaling the technology.

Expect to learn:

  • What ‘Fire Water’ is
  • How green, high-purity hydrogen can reach cost parity with brown hydrogen from natural gas
  • Why hydrogen, when paired with solar, can compete with natural gas for industrial steam production
  • The breakthrough in Erthos’s hydrogen boiler design

Noteworthy Quotes:

"We have one. We've got a 11,000 pound per hour boiler, 11,000 pounds an hour of water to steam. Convert 11,000 pounds of water per hour to steam in an hour. We have that boiler fully operational." - Jim Tyler
“I can make green, high purity hydrogen right at parity with brown hydrogen from natural gas.”- Jim Tyler

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Nico Johnson

Entrepreneur & Podcaster

In my 20 year career, I've worked with dozens of entrepreneurs, intrapreneurs and professionals in transition to clarify their mission, set or stretch their goals, and work through the barriers to their growth.

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